03-05-2018 06:14 PM
I'm a relatively small Rainmaker, most of the contacts I've added aren't off of lists or bulk submissions, they are those that I've manually added. I'm in the event industry, so I do get a few fresh (small) lists.
That being said, my lists are always clean 99%, and I've found Data.com to be a valuable resource (for the most part). HOWEVER, with alot of the Contributors on these blogs having 1,000,000 plus submissions, it seems a little like the president of Smithfield or Gwaltney advising a farmer on how to raise pigs.
They are obviously moving enormous lists and I would guess aren't wondering about the small issues that people like I run against. Again, this isn't to be negative, but although we are Rainmakers, we have little in common. I'm sure they're needed for the site,understood, but it's a little like Donald Trump teaching the maids how to fold the sheets in Trump Tower.
03-05-2018 06:35 PM
@LordofFlies, i can relate as I add/update more contacts individually than via bulk upload. As a result, my data contributions are of higher quality than those of bulk uploaders. In the past, many of us have asked that individual contributions be given more weight/reward in the form of more points than bulk uploads. This request was never implemented and I got the sense that data quantity was more important than data quality/accuracy unfortuantely. I gave your post a kudo as I wish this was the case, but sadly it is not... On the upside, there are several data quality safeguards that can lead to either the rejection of a bulk upload or points not awarded for contacts submitted in a bulk upload as a deterrent.
Reasons why bulk uploads are either rejected outright or few points are awarded, including but not limited to:
03-05-2018 06:36 PM
I wanted to add, Kudos to those who win contests on this, but to someone that's not a list broker, how would I find 50,000 contacts or whatever # won? I know these contacts are important to Data.com, but have the equivalent of an Amex Black Card Data.com Membership, since these contests appeal to probably 50 of your members. I didn't see what the prize was or who won............
03-05-2018 06:46 PM
@LordofFlies, Connect used to have a Monthly Contest Board, with monetary awards in more than a half dozen categories, three winners per catgory. Thankfully, this board and the monthly contests were abolished as I was convinced many were making contributions solely to win contests and game the system (ie swapping Realtor with Real Estate Agent). Today, the contest is quarterly, not monthly, with one winner per member tier. As a result, I have no doubt that the data quaity has improved under the new contest system. Separately, the new Rainmaker/Member of the month offsets the discontinuation of the Corner Champion Program which rewarded members for their contributions in the Corner and in terms of Data Contributions. The Champion program will be missed...
03-05-2018 06:51 PM
@LordofFlies, the current quarterly contest pay-off is Data.com swag, plus 1,000 points for non-Rainmakers. Rainmakers, can win a $150 AmEx gift card. Data Defenders can win a $250 AmEx Giftcard. This financial reward is nominal.
03-05-2018 06:53 PM
Thanks Alan but my issues weren't related to bulk uploads, and as you'll note my from my other post tonight, I cant add contacts since they are being identified as Austrailian. I get the sense when I ask questions from users they are always responded to by the "Tower". BTW, my company is down the street.
03-05-2018 07:05 PM
@LordofFlies, what is 'the tower'? While the Corner does have a 'moderator' that is an employee, all boards in the Corner are user to user. These boards are not monitored by the Support Team. Rarely does the moderator interject, as nearly all posts and responses are made by users, not Data.com employees. Neither myself nor 99% of those who post in the Corner work for data.com...
03-06-2018 07:34 AM
@LordofFlies I'm probably a similar size to you - I am a rainmaker, but I don't have 500,000 contributions. I don't know that I agree - I don't feel that the advice from the heavy hitters is irrelevant. I didn't get the pig farm reference or the Donald Trump reference (i'm from the NY area and I used to work around the corner from Trump Tower) but I think that having a board made up of almost entirely users is helpful, and when I find something isn't working, I can generally either get an answer I need from the @AlanSmithee's or send in a support ticket. I don't deal in thousands of contacts being imported at a time, so I rarely have major problems. As far as best practice discussions... I do agree with you that there are a dozen or so membesr on this board that answer the majority of the questions on here... but it's a good community from what I've seen. Depending on where you are located, you can even find some events to visit. Where I live, @LionoverLamb hosts meet-ups every now and then.